Who’s Really Fighting for Fans? Randy Nichols Comment in the DOJ/FTC Ticketing Consultation

The Department of Justice and Federal Trade Commission were directed by President Trump to conduct an investigation into ticket scalping pursuant to Executive Order 14254 “Combating Unfair Practices in the Live Entertainment Market.”

This led directly to both agencies inviting public comments on the state of the live event ticketing market—an industry riddled with speculation, opacity, and middlemen who seem to make money without ever attending a show. Over 4000 artists, fans, economists, state attorneys general, and industry veterans all weighed in. And the record reveals something important particularly regarding resellers: there’s a rising consensus that the resellers are engaged in some really shady practices designed for one purpose–to extract as much money as possible from fans and artists without regard to the damage it does to the entire artist-fan relationship.

First up is Randy Nichols comment which is an important starting place. Randy is a long-time artist manager and board member of NITO. He was the first person I met who conducted the necessary on-the-ground forensic investigation into just how blatantly resellers leveraged bots and other fraudster tools. I’ve summarized five key takeaways from his comment, but you really should read Randy’s thoughts in their entirety.

Scalper Bots and Browser Exploits Dominate Onsales

Nichols details how automated tools—including browser plugins and autofill scripts—allow scalpers to bypass ticket limits and jump queues during onsales. These tools operate faster than any human, making it nearly impossible for ordinary fans to purchase tickets at face value.

Speculative Ticket Listings Deceive Consumers and Manipulate the Market

Sellers often list tickets they don’t yet own, using predictive software to buy them later at lower prices. Nichols compares this to unregulated short selling in financial markets, emphasizing that it inflates prices and misleads buyers.

Deceptive URLs and Affiliate Networks Mislead Fans

Lookalike websites (e.g., with venue or tour names in the domain) are used to confuse consumers into thinking they’re buying from official sources. These are often linked to major secondary marketplaces through affiliate networks that obscure accountability.

Private Equity–Backed Ticket Loans Fuel Bulk Scalping

Nichols reveals how brokers access over $100 million annually in loans—some from firms like RCN Capital and Anytickets with ties to major ticketing executives—to fund high-volume speculative purchases. This weaponizes lending capital to crowd out fans during onsales.

Breaking Up Ticketmaster Won’t Solve Scalping

While acknowledging concerns about Live Nation/Ticketmaster’s dominance, Nichols warns that the private equity–driven secondary market is a separate and urgent problem. He calls for independent enforcement actions against scalpers, not just structural remedies for Ticketmaster.

Who’s Really Fighting for Fans? Georgia Music Partners Comment in the DOJ/FTC Ticketing Consultation

The Department of Justice and Federal Trade Commission were directed by President Trump to conduct an investigation into ticket scalping pursuant to Executive Order 14254 “Combating Unfair Practices in the Live Entertainment Market.”

This led directly to both agencies inviting public comments on the state of the live event ticketing market—an industry riddled with speculation, opacity, and middlemen who seem to make money without ever attending a show. Over 4000 artists, fans, economists, state attorneys general, and industry veterans all weighed in. And the record reveals something important particularly regarding resellers: there’s a rising consensus that the resellers are engaged in some really shady practices designed for one purpose–to extract as much money as possible from fans and artists without regard to the damage it does to the entire artist-fan relationship.

Today we’re posting Georgia Music Partners’ comment that highlights how unchecked secondary ticketing practices—particularly speculative ticket listings, bot-driven price inflation, deceptive branding, and the resale of restricted tickets—are systematically dismantling the live music ecosystem. These practices strip artists of control, mislead fans, and commoditize the artist-fan relationship for the sole benefit of resellers. The comment urges the DOJ and FTC to treat these behaviors as unfair and deceptive trade practices, enforce the BOTS Act, and distinguish reseller abuse from the separate issues posed by Live Nation case, emphasizing that the artist’s intent and trust with fans must be protected.

FTC Cracks Down on Ticket Scalpers in Major BOTS Act Enforcement

The wheels of justice turn slowly, but they do turn.

In what appears to be a response to NITO’s complaint filed last year with FTC, pressure from Senator Marsha Blackburn and President Trump’s executive order on ticket scalping, Hypebot reports that the Federal Trade Commission is going after large-scale ticket resellers for violating the Better Online Ticket Sales (BOTS) Act (authored by Senators Blackburn and Richard Blumenthal). 

The enforcement action seeks tens of millions of dollars in damages and signals that federal regulators are finally prepared to tackle the systemic abuse of automated tools and deceptive practices in the live event ticketing market.

According to Hypebot, the FTC alleges that the companies used bots and a web of pseudonymous accounts to bypass ticket purchasing limits—snagging prime seats to high-demand concerts and reselling them at inflated prices on platforms like StubHub and SeatGeek. The case represents one of the largest BOTS Act enforcement efforts to date. 

“The FTC is finally doing what artists, managers, and fans have been asking for: holding scalpers accountable,” said Randy Nichols, artist manager for Underoath and advocate for ticketing reform. “This sends a message to bad actors that the days of unchecked resale are numbered.”

As Hypebot reports, this enforcement may just be the beginning. The case is likely to test the limits of the BOTS Act and could set new precedent for what counts as deceptive or unfair conduct in the ticket resale market—even when bots aren’t directly involved.

Read the full story via HypebotFTC Goes After Ticket Scalpers, Seeks Tens of Millions in Damages

Who’s Really Fighting for Fans? A Closer Look at the DOJ/FTC Ticketing Consultation

The Department of Justice and Federal Trade Commission were directed by President Trump to conduct an investigation into ticket scalping pursuant to Executive Order 14254 “Combating Unfair Practices in the Live Entertainment Market.”

This led directly to both agencies inviting public comments on the state of the live event ticketing market—an industry riddled with speculation, opacity, and middlemen who seem to make money without ever attending a show. Over 4000 artists, fans, economists, state attorneys general, and industry veterans all weighed in. And the record reveals something important particularly regarding resellers: there’s a rising consensus that the resellers are engaged in some really shady practices designed for one purpose–to extract as much money as possible from fans and artists without regard to the damage it does to the entire artist-fan relationship.

Over the next several posts, I’ll be highlighting individual comments submitted to the DOJ/FTC inquiry. Some are technical, some personal, and some blisteringly direct—but all speak to the fundamental imbalance between artists, fans, and the multi-layered resellers, bots, and platforms that profit from both ends of the transaction.

This isn’t just about high prices. It’s about ownership, transparency, control, and accountability and the lenders who fuel the fraud. Many of the commenters argue that ticketing is no longer just a marketplace—it’s a manipulated, closed-loop ecosystem in which the reseller’s house always wins. And for too long, the architects of that system have claimed there’s nothing to see here. There is plenty to see here.

Each post in this series will spotlight one of these submissions that I have selected—not just to amplify the voices that took time to respond, but to help connect the dots on how the ticketing industry got here, who’s benefiting, and what needs to change.

We all have to be grateful to Kid Rock who brought this debacle to President Trump’s attention and to the President himself for making it a priority. We also have to thank Senator Marsha Blackburn for her continued defense of artists through her BOTS Act co-sponsored with Senator Blumenthal. Senator Blackburn has long opposed the use of automated fraudster systems to extract rents from fans and artists and we hope that the DOJ/FTC inquiry will also shed light on why there have been so few prosecutions.

Stay tuned for the first in the series. Spoiler alert: it’s going to be hard to argue that this is a “free market” when fans are bidding against bots and artists are not allowed to control the face value of their own shows. 

This is a summary of a lot of the more involved issues that came up in the comments:

1. Speculative Ticket Listings

Resellers frequently list tickets for sale without possessing them, misleading consumers and inflating prices. These listings distort market data and should be treated as deceptive under federal consumer protection law.

2. Price Manipulation Through Bots

Automated bots are used to hoard tickets and create artificial scarcity, driving up resale prices. This not only violates the BOTS Act but enables unfair competition that harms consumers.

3. Deceptive Use of Venue, Artist, or Promoter Branding

Resellers often use official names and branding in ads, URLs, and metadata as well as typosquatting or URL hacking to trick consumers into believing they are purchasing from authorized sources. These deceptive practices undermine market transparency.

4. Misleading “Sold Out” or Urgency Claims

Some platforms advertise that events are “sold out” or create false urgency (e.g., “only 2 left at this price”) when primary tickets are still available. These tactics constitute false advertising and manipulative marketing.

5. Concealment of Total Ticket Cost 

Fees are often hidden until checkout, misleading consumers about the true price. This “drip pricing” violates FTC guidance on transparent pricing and impairs consumers’ ability to comparison shop.

6. Resale of Non-Transferable or Restricted Tickets

Resellers list tickets that are explicitly non-transferable or designated will-call only, often in violation of the event organizer’s terms. Consumers risk being denied entry without recourse.

7. Lack of Delivery Guarantees and Refund Accountability

Many platforms offer no guaranteed delivery or refund protection when tickets are invalid or undelivered—despite charging substantial markups—leaving consumers with no remedy.

8. One-Sided Arbitration and Waiver Clauses

Some resale platforms impose forced arbitration clauses and class action waivers, effectively denying consumers access to meaningful remedies, even in cases of systemic fraud.

9. Failure to Disclose Broker Status or Ticket Quantities

Platforms often fail to identify brokers or disclose the number of tickets held, undermining market transparency and the ability of venues and regulators to detect fraud or hoarding.

10. Bankruptcy as a Shield Against Accountability

Resellers may use bankruptcy to discharge obligations arising from fraudulent or deceptive conduct. Congress should consider amendments to make such claims nondischargeable, similar to fraud-based exceptions under 11 U.S.C. § 523(a).

11. Federal RICO Liability for Coordinated BOTS Act Violations

The use of automated ticket-buying tools in coordinated schemes between resellers and bot developers may give rise to federal RICO charges under 18 U.S.C. §§ 1961–1968. The following are three plausible RICO predicates when tied to a pattern of violations:

   (a) Wire Fraud (18 U.S.C. § 1343): Automated bulk purchases made using false identities or obfuscated IP addresses may constitute wire fraud if they involve misrepresentations in interstate commerce.

   (b) Access Device Fraud (18 U.S.C. § 1029): Bot schemes often involve unauthorized use of payment cards, CAPTCHA bypass tools, or ticket platform credentials, qualifying as trafficking in access devices.

   (c) Computer Fraud and Abuse (18 U.S.C. § 1030): Bypassing ticket site security measures may amount to unauthorized access under the CFAA, particularly when done for commercial advantage.

These acts, when carried out by a coordinated enterprise, support civil or criminal RICO enforcement, particularly where repeat violations and intent to defraud can be established.

@ArtistRights Institute Newsletter 5/5/25

The Artist Rights Watch podcast returns for another season! This week’s episode features Chris Castle on An Artist’s Guide to Record Releases Part 2. Download it here or subscribe wherever you get your audio podcasts.

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Texas Scalpers Bill of Rights Legislation

Can this Texas House bill help curb high ticket prices? Depends whom you ask (Marcheta Fornoff/KERA News)

Texas lawmakers target ticket fees and resale restrictions in new legislative push (Abigail Velez/CBS Austin)

@ArtistRights Institute opposes Texas Ticketing Legislation the “Scalpers’ Bill of Rights” (Chris Castle/Artist Rights Watch)

Streaming

Spotify’s Earnings Points To A “Catch Up” On Songwriter Royalties At Crb For Royalty Justice (Chris Castle/MusicTechPolicy)

Streaming Is Now Just As Crowded With Ads As Old School TV (Rick Porter/Hollywood Reporter)

Spotify Stock Falls On Music Streamer’s Mixed Q1 Report (Patrick Seitz/Investors Business Daily)

Economy

The Slowdown at Ports Is a Warning of Rough Economic Seas Ahead (Aarian Marshall/Wired)

What To Expect From Wednesday’s Federal Reserve Meeting (Diccon Hyatt/Investopedia)

Spotify Q1 2025 Earnings Call: Daniel Ek Talks Growth, Pricing, Superfan Products, And A Future Where The Platform Could Reach 1bn Subscribers (Murray Stassen/Music Business Worldwide)

Artist Rights and AI

SAG-AFTRA National Board Approves Commercials Contracts That Prevent AI, Digital Replicas Without Consent (JD Knapp/The Wrap)

Generative AI providers see first steps for EU code of practice on content labels (Luca Bertuzzi/Mlex)

A Judge Says Meta’s AI Copyright Case Is About ‘the Next Taylor Swift’ (Kate Knibbs/Wired)

Antitrust

Google faces September trial on ad tech antitrust remedies (David Shepardson and Jody Godoy/Reuters)

TikTok

Ireland fines TikTok 530 million euros for sending EU user data to China (Ryan Browne/CNBC)

@ArtistRights Institute opposes Texas Ticketing Legislation the “Scalpers’ Bill of Rights”

By Chris Castle

Coming soon to a state house near you, it looks like the StubHubs and SeatGeeks of this world are at it again. Readers will remember the “Trouble with Ticketing” panel at the Artist Rights Symposium last year and our discussion of the model “Scalpers’ Bill of Rights” that had been introduced at ALEC shortly before the panel convened.

A quick update, the “model” bill was so bad it couldn’t even get support at ALEC, which is saying something. However, the very same bill has shown up and been introduced in both the Texas and North Carolina state legislatures. I posted about it on MusicTechPolicy here.

The Texas House bill (HB 3621) is up for a hearing tomorrow. If you live in Texas you can comment and show up for public comments at the Legislature:

Submit Written Testimony (must be a Texas resident):
• Submit here: https://comments.house.texas.gov/home?c=c473
• Select HB 3621 by Bumgarner
• Keep comments under 3,000 characters

Testify In Person at the Capitol in Austin:
• Hearing Date: Wednesday, April 23 at 8:00 AM CT
• Location: Room E2.014, Texas Capitol
• Register here: https://house.texas.gov/committees/witness-registration
• You must create an account in advance: https://hwrspublicprofile.house.texas.gov/CreateAccount.aspx

ARI has submitted written comments through the Texas House comment portal, but we’re also sending the letter below to the committee so that we can add the color commentary and spin out the whole sordid tale of how this bill came to exist.

Can RICO Be Far Behind?  President Trump and Kid Rock Announce Whole of Government Enforcement of the BOTS Act

By Chris Castle

Yes, the sound you hear echoing from Silicon Valley is the sound of gnashing teeth and rending garments—some freaking guitar player did an end run around Big Tech’s brutal lobbying power and got to the President of the United States.  Don’t you just hate it when that happens?  Maybe not, but trust me, they really hate it because in those dark hours they don’t talk about at parties, they really hate us and think we are beneath them.  Remember that when you deal with YouTube and Spotify.

But to no avail.  President Trump signed an executive order yesterday that can only be described as taking a whole of government approach to enforcement of the BOTS Act.  As readers will recall, I have long said when it comes to StubHub, SeatGeek and their ilk, no bots, no billionaires.  It is hard to imagine a world where StubHub & Co.  are not basing their entire business model on the use of bots and other automated processes to snarf up tickets before the fans can get them.  This was also the subject of our ticketing panel at the 2024 Artist Rights Symposium in Washington, DC.

Remember, the BOTS Act, sponsored by Senator Marsha Blackburn and signed into law by President Obama in 2016, was designed to curb the use of automated software (bots) that purchase large quantities of event tickets, often within seconds of their release, to resell them at inflated prices through market makers like StubHub. It was so under-enforced that until the Executive Order it was entirely possible that StubHub could have sneaked out an IPO to slurp up money from the pubic trough before anyone knows better.

The government’s enforcement of the BOTS Act is so poor that Senator Blackburn found it necessary to introduce even more legislation to try to get the FTC to do their job. The Mitigating Automated Internet Networks for (MAIN) Event Ticketing Act is a bill introduced in 2023 by Senators Blackburn and Ben Ray Luján that aims to give the FTC even fewer excuses not to enforce the BOTS Act. It would further the FTC’s consumer protection mission against IPO-driven ticket scalping.

There are entire business lines built around furthering illegal ticket scalping that are so blatant they actually hold trade shows.  For example, NITO complained to the FTC that their investigators found multiple software platforms on the trade show floor  at a ticket brokers conference that are illegal under the BOTS Act and possibly under other laws such as Treasury Department regulations, financial crimes, wire fraud and the like.

The NITO FTC complaint details how multiple technology companies, many of whom exhibited at World Ticket Conference hosted by The National Association of Ticket Brokers in Nashville on July 24-26, 2024, provide tools that enable scalpers to circumvent ticket purchasing limits. These tools include sophisticated browser extensions, proxy services, and virtual credit card platforms designed to bypass security measures implemented by primary ticket sellers.

As is mentioned in the Executive Order, the sad truth is that the FTC didn’t take its first action to enforce the 2016 law until 2021. And that’s the only action it has ever taken.   Which is why President Trump’s executive order is so critical in stopping these scoundrels.

Kid Rock apparently had a chance to present these issues to President Trump and was present at the signing ceremony for the Executive Order. He said:

First off thank you Mr. President because this has happened at lightning speed.  I want to make sure Alina Habba gets her credit too because I know she worked very hard in this but thank you for making this happen so quick.

Anyone who’s bought a concert ticket in the last decade, maybe 20 years, no matter what your politics are knows it is a conundrum.  You buy a ticket for $100 but by the time you check out it’s $170.  You don’t know what you were charged for, but more importantly these bots come in and get all the good tickets to your favorite shows you want to go to.  Then they’re relisted immediately for sometimes a four or five hundred percent markup—the artists don’t get that money!

Ultimately I think this is a great first step. I would love down the road if there be some legislation that we could actually put a cap on the resale of tickets.

Yes, folks, we may be onto something here.

The reason I say that the EO establishes a “whole of government” approach is because of what else is in the order.  The actual EO was published, and the press release on the White House site says this:

  • The Order directs the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) to:
    • Work with the Attorney General to ensure that competition laws are appropriately enforced in the concert and entertainment industry.
    • Rigorously enforce the Better Online Ticket Sales (BOTS) Act and promote its enforcement by state consumer protection authorities.
    • Ensure price transparency at all stages of the ticket-purchase process, including the secondary ticketing market.
    • Evaluate and, if appropriate, take enforcement action to prevent unfair, deceptive, and anti-competitive conduct in the secondary ticketing market.
  • The Order directs the Secretary of the Treasury and Attorney General to ensure that ticket scalpers are operating in full compliance with the Internal Revenue Code and other applicable law.
  • Treasury, the Department of Justice, and the FTC will also deliver a report within 180 days summarizing actions taken to address the issue of unfair practices in the live concert and entertainment industry and recommend additional regulations or legislation needed to protect consumers in this industry.

In other words, the EO directs other Executive Branch agencies at the DOJ, FTC, Treasury to take enforcement seriously.  If the Department of Justice is involved, that could very well lead to enforcement of the BOTS Act’s criminal penalties.  And it’s kind of hard to have a StubHub IPO from prison although President Trump may want to add the Securities and Exchange Commission to the list of agencies he is calling into action.

In addition to fines, individuals convicted under the BOTS Act could face imprisonment for up to 1 year for a first offense. Repeat offenders may face longer prison sentences, depending on the nature of the violation and if there are aggravating factors involved (such as fraud or large-scale operations).  And remember, wire fraud is a common RICO predicate under the racketeering laws which is where I personally think this whole situation needs to go and go quickly. Remember, StubHub narrowly escaped a claim for civil RICO already.

So we shall see who is serious and who isn’t.  But I will say I’m hopeful. If you wanted to seriously go after actually solving the problem on the law enforcement side, this is how you would do it.

If you wanted to go after it on the property rights side, Kid Rock’s line about establishing a cap is how you would start.  The guy has clearly thought this through and we’re lucky that he has.  We’ll get around to speculative ticketing and taking out some of the other trash down the road if that’s even a problem after getting after bots.  But on property rights, let’s start with respecting the artist’s rights to set their own prices and have them followed instead of the current catastrophe.

The other take away from this is that Marsha was right—BOTS Act is probably enough law to handle the problem.  You just need to enforce it.

I always say you can’t get Silicon Valley to behave with fines alone because they print money due to the income transfer.  Prison, though, prison is the key that picks the lock.

[Editor Charlie sez: This post first appeared on MusicTechPolicy]

@Artist Rights Institute Newsletter 3/31/25

The Artist Rights Institute’s news digest Newsletter from Artist Rights Watch.

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Ticketing

Executive Order on Combating Unfair Practices in the Live Entertainment Market

Music Industry reacts to Executive Order on Ticket Scalping (Bruce Houghton/Hypebot)

What Hath Trump Wrought: The Effect of the Anti-Scalping Executive Order on StubHub’s IPO (Chris Castle/MusicTech.Solutions)

StubHub IPO Filing

Copyright Litigation

Merlin sues TikTok rival Triller for breach of contract over allegedly unpaid music licensing fees (Daniel Tencer/Music Business Worldwide)

Artificial Intelligence: Legislation

Artificial intelligence firms should pay artists and musicians for using their work amid uproar over Labour’s plans to exempt them from copyright laws, according to a new poll of Brits (Chris Pollard/Daily Mail)

European Union’s latest draft AI Code of Practice renders copyright ‘meaningless,’ rightsholders warn (Mandy Dalugdug/Music Business Worldwide)

Artificial Intelligence
The Style Returns: Some notes on ChatGPT and Studio Ghibli
 (Andres Guadamuz/TechnoLlama) 

OpenAI’s Preemption Request Highlights State Laws’ Downsides (Oliver Roberts/Bloomberg Law)

Copyright: Termination Rights

Update on Vetter v. Resnik case (Chris Castle/MusicTechPolicy)

Step Right Up: The Chamber of Progress’s Ticketing Chamber of Horrors Fools Nobody

It’s one of those sad facts there are people you meet in life who just always seem to have the wrong side of the deal. Sometimes it’s emotionally understandable in the case of kids like the Cox character from William Boyd’s Good and Bad at Games or even Smike from Nicholas Nickleby. But when you see one of these cringy Silicon Valley policy laundries like “Chamber of Progress” keep getting the wrong side of the deal, there’s a much simpler explanation.

And now they are wrapping themselves in the flag of progressivism as they run the thimblerig on–of all things–ticketing. And cutesy names like “Chamber of Progress” notwithstanding, the group’s latest “report” if you can call it that would have state legislators believe that the StubHubs of this world are actually on the side of all that is good, just innocent puppies scampering across the stage with an IPO in their mouth. 

These high minded choir boys fancy their souls are just purer than everyone else’s in their cyberlibertarian progressivism who oppose asymmetrical commercial power except when it suits them and only when it suits them. We see it with Chamber of Progress’s “Generate and Create” obfuscation campaign to promote Silicon Valley’s interests in the “fair use” copyright exception absurdly applied to generative AI. This under the guise of “supporting” artists while destroying their craft and, yes, their humanity. OK, I went there. And we now we see it in ticketing, too. Can’t these guys get a real job?

As we will see, what the Chamber of Progress is really about when it comes to our community is locking in asymmetrical power relationships and protecting Silicon Valley’s cybergod-given right to extract money from relationships where they are not wanted and transactions where they don’t belong. Far from “forget the middleman”, StubHub’s entire business model is based on imposing themselves as the middleman with, it would appear, some pretty nefarious partners. While Chamber of Progress wants to point to the pending Department of Justice case against LiveNation as an excuse for just about anything you can think of, it is well to remember that pending cases don’t always turn out as advertised and flags can become shrouds. Since they seem to like DOJ investigations so much, let’s not forget there’s another one that may be in the offing they’ll like a lot less.

The Flawed Premise of Faux Property Rights

The report starts off from a very flawed premise and a classic projection about the plethora of state ticketing laws backed or opposed by StubHub & Co. The Chamber tells us that “legislators should adopt resale ticketing laws to foster competition, reduce ticket prices, and increase transparency.” Reduce ticket prices? Really? If anyone is acting to increase ticket prices it’s the middleman resellers whose very existence undermines the longstanding economic relationship between artists and fans. Economic relationships that thrive in an environment of classical enforceable property rights.

It begins like a lot of these propaganda campaigns do–identify your villains (those you want to unseat) and then trot out a parade of horrors you create by shading the facts. By the end, a busy legislator or staffer is ready to believe they discovered the cause of cancer and that the potholes are somebody else’s fault!

But here is the essential flaw that I think brings down the entire chamber of horrors this report tries to manufacture. They really want you to believe that once an artist sells a ticket, that ticket can then be resold or repackaged because the artist has sold the right to control the ticket to the purchaser. This tortured analysis of the artist’s property rights is simply incorrect and this one error is the beginning of a cascading effect of really bad stuff for everyone in the chain. Here’s what the report says:

The use of “license” language in ticketing legislation has created a loophole that unscrupulous venues can exploit. When a ticket is defined as a “license” rather than a property right, it gives venues and event organizers the power to revoke the license of any ticket that is resold. This means that even if a ticket was legally purchased, the venue can declare it invalid if it is resold to another party. 

Resale freedom laws provide essential benefits to consumers by ensuring their rights to buy, sell, and transfer tickets without arbitrary restrictions by primary sellers like Live Nation. These laws help to keep ticket prices affordable and enhance consumer choice and access to live events. Resale freedom laws ban anti-consumer practices and empower fans to find tickets on the platform of their choice, increasing their chances of securing seats for popular events. 

See what they did there? First, they are selling “freedom” as in “resale freedom.” This is both laughable but truly Orwellian Newspeak, as in SLAVERY IS FREEDOM. This is not supposed to be a funny joke, somebody paid a lot of money for this report. Yet what do you expect from people who think “Chamber of Progress” is a great brand?

But seriously, they skip over the fact that the artist sets the price for their ticket. They skip over it because they have to if they want to make their sponsor’s case. That doesn’t make them correct, however. The report bungles the economic relationships in ticketing because they either fail to understand or don’t want to understand the reality.

The Report Gets the Economics Backwards

Live shows are not fungible or interchangeable. The ticket starts out as the artist’s property and the artist decides the ticket’s face price based on the economic relationship the artist wants with their fan. As David Lowery has said many times, the economic relationship between artists and fans is analogous to a subscription, it’s not a one-time transaction from which the artist wants to extract the net present value of all possible transactions with the fan. The resellers have the opposite relationship with the fan because to them, fans are fungible. Resellers want to extract the maximum from each fan transaction because they don’t care about a long-term relationship with the fan. Upside down world, right?

When the artist sells a ticket, they sell a right to attend the show under certain conditions. They don’t sell a piece of property. They don’t sell a pork belly or a can of Coke. They sell an emotional connection. That’s not a “loophole.” Pretending that a ticket is a pork belly is creating a loophole out of thin air.

That is true of cover charge for bands at your local dive bar and it is true of Taylor Swift at your local soft-seat venue or stadium. It’s also true in dynamic pricing situations–I’m not a fan of dynamic pricing, but I respect the artist’s decision if they think it’s right for them. Big or small, this is the core relationship that must be respected if you want live music to survive and it’s something I think about in Austin where the city styles itself the Live Music Capitol of the World.

So Chamber of Progress objects to state laws that confirm this license relationship, and that’s an important distinction. These laws confirm the reality of the true original property right, they don’t recreate an alternate reality out of whole cloth. The fact that it is even necessary to pass these laws belies the oligopoly power of StubHub & Co. 

But Chamber of Progress goes even further because the point of the report is to identify a villain. And here is where the fudging starts. They tell you “When a ticket is defined as a “license” rather than a property right, it gives venues and event organizers the power to revoke the license of any ticket that is resold.”

Not true. The artist has that right and delegates that right to the venues as part of the ticketing function. But even StubHub is leery of attacking artists directly so they devise this bizarre rhetorical construct of licensing vs. ownership in order to blame venues, and for what? Preventing scalpers from profiting from their scams and preventing resellers from profiting from their arbitrage. 

Bots and Scammers

This fallacy alone is really enough to refute the entire report, but wait, there’s more. There are two key foundations for the ticket reselling business at scale: bots and making a market for scammers to sell what they don’t own, aka speculative ticketing. They need bots because it allows scalpers to beat fans to tickets in quantity and they need spec ticketing because it allows them to sell a ticket that doesn’t even exist yet but for which there is demand.

Remember–bots are illegal. The Better Online Ticket Sales Act of 2016 sponsored by Senators Marsha Blackburn and Richard Blumenthal banned the use of bots for ticket sales in the US. The National Independent Talent Association asked the Federal Trade Commission to investigate open and notorious bot technologies on sale at the big ticket resellers convention:

Our organization recently attended the World Ticket Conference organized by the National Association of Ticket Brokers (NATB). At this event, we observed a sold-out exhibition hall filled with vendors selling and marketing products designed to bypass security measures for ticket purchases, in direct violation of the BOTS Act.

Realize, this isn’t a question of whether or not resellers profit from the use of bots on their platforms–the question is why aren’t people being prosecuted for violating the BOTS Act. But the Chamber of Progress wants you to believe there is something wrong with passing state laws to give state Attorneys General the power to prosecute these laws shoulder-to-shoulder with the overworked and under-resourced FTC.

Bills that purportedly claim to enhance transparency through speculative ticket bans, protect consumer rights through anti-bots legislation, or improve access through customer data sharing often contain hidden provisions that restrict competition and limit consumer choices. 

In other words, the report opposes banning speculative ticket sales–selling something you don’t own is already illegal, probably since the dawn of our legal systems–and opposes state anti-bots legislation–already illegal under the federal BOTS Act. This should tell you all you need to know.

It’s Just Business: Racketeering, Silicon Valley Style

The real story that goes unreported is that StubHub is currently being sued in a New York class action for violating the civil Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations laws in selling tickets to a UK football match without rights. They have managed to punt that case based on their one-sided adhesion contract requiring arbitration in their terms of service, but interestingly the federal judge overseeing the case has retained jurisdiction. Imagine the risk factor in the StubHub IPO prospectus about how they could be subject to the RICO laws.

I recently posted about a “model” ticketing legislation that some of these characters were trying to get adopted by ALEC (the conservative state lobbying operation) which I gather has been dropped since the old link to the model bill is dead. It looks to me like the Chamber report is a new offensive rising out of the ashes of the ALEC lobbying effort. 

“Progressives” Who Fail to Address Asymmetry between Big Tech and Artists are Not Progressives

So once again, our friends in Silicon Valley are trying to elbow their way into a place they are not wanted, not needed, and are poisonous all in the aid of making them even richer all under a miasma of crap about “reseller freedom.” Fortunately, the public is getting wise to their scams no matter how much they try to sell their oppressive tactics as some kind of freedom. If they want to really be progressive, they’d help artists establish a resale royalty so that we could share in the riches from their arbitrage in return for a right to resell our tickets. Don’t hold your breath.

As we’ve seen with their logical backflips in AI and now with ticketing, the Chamber of Progress may be a lot of things, but “progressive” they ain’t. Maybe we can help them find productive work in this season of hope.

[A version of this post first appeared on MusicTechPolicy.]

Stubhub & Co. Launch Stealth state-by-state legislative offensive strategy for Astroturf “Model” State Ticketing Laws

By Chris Castle

Yes, it’s kismet in the legislature–the sketchy ticket resellers are redoubling their efforts to normalize “speculative tickets.” They have found a willing partner in gaslighting with an organization called “ALEC”.

The American Legislative Exchange Council (hence “ALEC“) is a nonprofit organization that brings together private sector representatives and relatively conservative state legislators to draft (and pass) “model legislation” that pushes a particular narrative. (That private sector representation is led by Netchoice, aka, Big Tech.) Unlike other model legislation with a social benefit like say the Uniform Partnership Act, ALEC’s “model legislation” pushes a particular agenda. Examples would be “stand your ground” gun laws, Voter ID laws, and “right to work” laws.

Netchoice Members (Netchoice leads ALEC’s Private Enterprise Advisory Council)

ALEC’s many successfully-passed “model” laws are intended to be passed by state legislatures as-written. Like Al Capone’s green beer, it ain’t meant to be good it’s meant to be drunk. A cynic–not mentioning the names of any particular cynics–might say that the ALEC strategy is an end-run around federal legislation (like the fake library legislation that was shot down in New York). If ALEC can get a critical mass of states to pass one of their “model bills” as-drafted on any particular subject, then the need for federal legislation on that topic may become more muted. In fact, if federal legislation becomes inevitable, the ALEC model bills then provide guidance for federal legislation, or new federal legislation has to draft around the states that adopt the model bill.

So much for Justice Louis Brandeis’ concept of states as laboratories of democracy (New State Ice Co. v. Liebmann, 285 U.S. 262 (1932)), unless that lab belongs to Dr. Frankenstein. ALEC’s mission claims to promote principles of limited government, free markets, and federalism; I will leave you to decide if it’s more about checkbook federalism.

Ticketing Panel, Artist Rights Symposium 11/20/24, Washington DC
L-R: Chris Castle (Artist Rights Institute), Dr. David Lowery (Univ. of Georgia, Terry College of Business), Mala Sharma (Georgia Music Partners), Stephen Parker (National Independent Venue Association), Kevin Erickson (Future of Music Coalition)

Like so many of these bills, ALEC’s Live Event Ticketing Consumer Protection & Reform Act disguises its true objective with a bunch of gaslighting bromides that they evidently believe to be persuasive and then when you’re not looking they slip in the knife. Then when the knife is protruding from your back you discover the true purpose. I think this section of the bill is the true purpose:

This is an odd construct. The model bill starts out by requiring positive behavior of a primary seller (which would be the band on fan club sales or other direct to fan sales). That positive behavior immediately turns to using the ticket purchaser into an enforcer of the values beneficial to the ticket reseller. This is done by forcing a purchaser to be able to resell their ticket without regard to any restrictions placed on reselling by the artist. 

And you know that’s the intention because the section also requires there to be no maximum or minimum price. While the model bill doesn’t require any particular restriction on the platforms, it has enough in it that it can look like a consumer protection bill, but what it is really doing and apparently was designed to accomplish is eliminate an artist’s a ability to set prices.

ALEC is serious about violations of the act, including civil penalties. Their model ticketing legislation can be enforced by both the Federal Trade Commission and state attorneys general. Penalties can include fines of up to $15,000 per day of violation and $1,000 per event ticket advertised or sold. One problem with the model bill is that it appropriates jurisdiction already available to federal agencies like the FTC which is already failing to enforce the existing BOTS Act and other property theft laws.

The main targets seem to be Stubhub’s competitors like “Primary Ticket Merchants,” These are the original sellers of event tickets, such as event organizers or venues. “Secondary Ticket Merchants” may also be prosecuted as well as individuals.

We continue to study the proposed model legislation, but I tend to agree with Stephen Parker (NIVA) and Kevin Erickson (Future of Music) on my Artist Rights Institute panel in DC yesterday. The better model bill may be their bill passed in Maryland, recently signed into law by Maryland governor Wes More.

Key differences between Maryland and the ALEC bill I could spot:

  • Scope of Penalties: The Maryland bill specifies fines for speculative ticket sales, while the ALEC bill includes broader penalties for various violations.
  • Refund Policies: The Maryland bill explicitly requires refunds for counterfeit tickets, canceled events, or mismatched tickets, whereas the ALEC bill focuses more on transparency and restrictive practices.
  • Study on Resale Impact: The Maryland bill includes a provision for studying the impact of resale price caps, which is not present in the ALEC bill.

    It appears that the Live Event Ticketing Consumer Protection & Reform Act will be introduced at the ALEC meeting on December 5, 2024. This is where ALEC members, including state legislators and private sector representatives, will discuss and vote on the model policy. 

    Watch this space.