Step Right Up: The Chamber of Progress’s Ticketing Chamber of Horrors Fools Nobody

It’s one of those sad facts there are people you meet in life who just always seem to have the wrong side of the deal. Sometimes it’s emotionally understandable in the case of kids like the Cox character from William Boyd’s Good and Bad at Games or even Smike from Nicholas Nickleby. But when you see one of these cringy Silicon Valley policy laundries like “Chamber of Progress” keep getting the wrong side of the deal, there’s a much simpler explanation.

And now they are wrapping themselves in the flag of progressivism as they run the thimblerig on–of all things–ticketing. And cutesy names like “Chamber of Progress” notwithstanding, the group’s latest “report” if you can call it that would have state legislators believe that the StubHubs of this world are actually on the side of all that is good, just innocent puppies scampering across the stage with an IPO in their mouth. 

These high minded choir boys fancy their souls are just purer than everyone else’s in their cyberlibertarian progressivism who oppose asymmetrical commercial power except when it suits them and only when it suits them. We see it with Chamber of Progress’s “Generate and Create” obfuscation campaign to promote Silicon Valley’s interests in the “fair use” copyright exception absurdly applied to generative AI. This under the guise of “supporting” artists while destroying their craft and, yes, their humanity. OK, I went there. And we now we see it in ticketing, too. Can’t these guys get a real job?

As we will see, what the Chamber of Progress is really about when it comes to our community is locking in asymmetrical power relationships and protecting Silicon Valley’s cybergod-given right to extract money from relationships where they are not wanted and transactions where they don’t belong. Far from “forget the middleman”, StubHub’s entire business model is based on imposing themselves as the middleman with, it would appear, some pretty nefarious partners. While Chamber of Progress wants to point to the pending Department of Justice case against LiveNation as an excuse for just about anything you can think of, it is well to remember that pending cases don’t always turn out as advertised and flags can become shrouds. Since they seem to like DOJ investigations so much, let’s not forget there’s another one that may be in the offing they’ll like a lot less.

The Flawed Premise of Faux Property Rights

The report starts off from a very flawed premise and a classic projection about the plethora of state ticketing laws backed or opposed by StubHub & Co. The Chamber tells us that “legislators should adopt resale ticketing laws to foster competition, reduce ticket prices, and increase transparency.” Reduce ticket prices? Really? If anyone is acting to increase ticket prices it’s the middleman resellers whose very existence undermines the longstanding economic relationship between artists and fans. Economic relationships that thrive in an environment of classical enforceable property rights.

It begins like a lot of these propaganda campaigns do–identify your villains (those you want to unseat) and then trot out a parade of horrors you create by shading the facts. By the end, a busy legislator or staffer is ready to believe they discovered the cause of cancer and that the potholes are somebody else’s fault!

But here is the essential flaw that I think brings down the entire chamber of horrors this report tries to manufacture. They really want you to believe that once an artist sells a ticket, that ticket can then be resold or repackaged because the artist has sold the right to control the ticket to the purchaser. This tortured analysis of the artist’s property rights is simply incorrect and this one error is the beginning of a cascading effect of really bad stuff for everyone in the chain. Here’s what the report says:

The use of “license” language in ticketing legislation has created a loophole that unscrupulous venues can exploit. When a ticket is defined as a “license” rather than a property right, it gives venues and event organizers the power to revoke the license of any ticket that is resold. This means that even if a ticket was legally purchased, the venue can declare it invalid if it is resold to another party. 

Resale freedom laws provide essential benefits to consumers by ensuring their rights to buy, sell, and transfer tickets without arbitrary restrictions by primary sellers like Live Nation. These laws help to keep ticket prices affordable and enhance consumer choice and access to live events. Resale freedom laws ban anti-consumer practices and empower fans to find tickets on the platform of their choice, increasing their chances of securing seats for popular events. 

See what they did there? First, they are selling “freedom” as in “resale freedom.” This is both laughable but truly Orwellian Newspeak, as in SLAVERY IS FREEDOM. This is not supposed to be a funny joke, somebody paid a lot of money for this report. Yet what do you expect from people who think “Chamber of Progress” is a great brand?

But seriously, they skip over the fact that the artist sets the price for their ticket. They skip over it because they have to if they want to make their sponsor’s case. That doesn’t make them correct, however. The report bungles the economic relationships in ticketing because they either fail to understand or don’t want to understand the reality.

The Report Gets the Economics Backwards

Live shows are not fungible or interchangeable. The ticket starts out as the artist’s property and the artist decides the ticket’s face price based on the economic relationship the artist wants with their fan. As David Lowery has said many times, the economic relationship between artists and fans is analogous to a subscription, it’s not a one-time transaction from which the artist wants to extract the net present value of all possible transactions with the fan. The resellers have the opposite relationship with the fan because to them, fans are fungible. Resellers want to extract the maximum from each fan transaction because they don’t care about a long-term relationship with the fan. Upside down world, right?

When the artist sells a ticket, they sell a right to attend the show under certain conditions. They don’t sell a piece of property. They don’t sell a pork belly or a can of Coke. They sell an emotional connection. That’s not a “loophole.” Pretending that a ticket is a pork belly is creating a loophole out of thin air.

That is true of cover charge for bands at your local dive bar and it is true of Taylor Swift at your local soft-seat venue or stadium. It’s also true in dynamic pricing situations–I’m not a fan of dynamic pricing, but I respect the artist’s decision if they think it’s right for them. Big or small, this is the core relationship that must be respected if you want live music to survive and it’s something I think about in Austin where the city styles itself the Live Music Capitol of the World.

So Chamber of Progress objects to state laws that confirm this license relationship, and that’s an important distinction. These laws confirm the reality of the true original property right, they don’t recreate an alternate reality out of whole cloth. The fact that it is even necessary to pass these laws belies the oligopoly power of StubHub & Co. 

But Chamber of Progress goes even further because the point of the report is to identify a villain. And here is where the fudging starts. They tell you “When a ticket is defined as a “license” rather than a property right, it gives venues and event organizers the power to revoke the license of any ticket that is resold.”

Not true. The artist has that right and delegates that right to the venues as part of the ticketing function. But even StubHub is leery of attacking artists directly so they devise this bizarre rhetorical construct of licensing vs. ownership in order to blame venues, and for what? Preventing scalpers from profiting from their scams and preventing resellers from profiting from their arbitrage. 

Bots and Scammers

This fallacy alone is really enough to refute the entire report, but wait, there’s more. There are two key foundations for the ticket reselling business at scale: bots and making a market for scammers to sell what they don’t own, aka speculative ticketing. They need bots because it allows scalpers to beat fans to tickets in quantity and they need spec ticketing because it allows them to sell a ticket that doesn’t even exist yet but for which there is demand.

Remember–bots are illegal. The Better Online Ticket Sales Act of 2016 sponsored by Senators Marsha Blackburn and Richard Blumenthal banned the use of bots for ticket sales in the US. The National Independent Talent Association asked the Federal Trade Commission to investigate open and notorious bot technologies on sale at the big ticket resellers convention:

Our organization recently attended the World Ticket Conference organized by the National Association of Ticket Brokers (NATB). At this event, we observed a sold-out exhibition hall filled with vendors selling and marketing products designed to bypass security measures for ticket purchases, in direct violation of the BOTS Act.

Realize, this isn’t a question of whether or not resellers profit from the use of bots on their platforms–the question is why aren’t people being prosecuted for violating the BOTS Act. But the Chamber of Progress wants you to believe there is something wrong with passing state laws to give state Attorneys General the power to prosecute these laws shoulder-to-shoulder with the overworked and under-resourced FTC.

Bills that purportedly claim to enhance transparency through speculative ticket bans, protect consumer rights through anti-bots legislation, or improve access through customer data sharing often contain hidden provisions that restrict competition and limit consumer choices. 

In other words, the report opposes banning speculative ticket sales–selling something you don’t own is already illegal, probably since the dawn of our legal systems–and opposes state anti-bots legislation–already illegal under the federal BOTS Act. This should tell you all you need to know.

It’s Just Business: Racketeering, Silicon Valley Style

The real story that goes unreported is that StubHub is currently being sued in a New York class action for violating the civil Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations laws in selling tickets to a UK football match without rights. They have managed to punt that case based on their one-sided adhesion contract requiring arbitration in their terms of service, but interestingly the federal judge overseeing the case has retained jurisdiction. Imagine the risk factor in the StubHub IPO prospectus about how they could be subject to the RICO laws.

I recently posted about a “model” ticketing legislation that some of these characters were trying to get adopted by ALEC (the conservative state lobbying operation) which I gather has been dropped since the old link to the model bill is dead. It looks to me like the Chamber report is a new offensive rising out of the ashes of the ALEC lobbying effort. 

“Progressives” Who Fail to Address Asymmetry between Big Tech and Artists are Not Progressives

So once again, our friends in Silicon Valley are trying to elbow their way into a place they are not wanted, not needed, and are poisonous all in the aid of making them even richer all under a miasma of crap about “reseller freedom.” Fortunately, the public is getting wise to their scams no matter how much they try to sell their oppressive tactics as some kind of freedom. If they want to really be progressive, they’d help artists establish a resale royalty so that we could share in the riches from their arbitrage in return for a right to resell our tickets. Don’t hold your breath.

As we’ve seen with their logical backflips in AI and now with ticketing, the Chamber of Progress may be a lot of things, but “progressive” they ain’t. Maybe we can help them find productive work in this season of hope.

[A version of this post first appeared on MusicTechPolicy.]

Stubhub & Co. Launch Stealth state-by-state legislative offensive strategy for Astroturf “Model” State Ticketing Laws

By Chris Castle

Yes, it’s kismet in the legislature–the sketchy ticket resellers are redoubling their efforts to normalize “speculative tickets.” They have found a willing partner in gaslighting with an organization called “ALEC”.

The American Legislative Exchange Council (hence “ALEC“) is a nonprofit organization that brings together private sector representatives and relatively conservative state legislators to draft (and pass) “model legislation” that pushes a particular narrative. (That private sector representation is led by Netchoice, aka, Big Tech.) Unlike other model legislation with a social benefit like say the Uniform Partnership Act, ALEC’s “model legislation” pushes a particular agenda. Examples would be “stand your ground” gun laws, Voter ID laws, and “right to work” laws.

Netchoice Members (Netchoice leads ALEC’s Private Enterprise Advisory Council)

ALEC’s many successfully-passed “model” laws are intended to be passed by state legislatures as-written. Like Al Capone’s green beer, it ain’t meant to be good it’s meant to be drunk. A cynic–not mentioning the names of any particular cynics–might say that the ALEC strategy is an end-run around federal legislation (like the fake library legislation that was shot down in New York). If ALEC can get a critical mass of states to pass one of their “model bills” as-drafted on any particular subject, then the need for federal legislation on that topic may become more muted. In fact, if federal legislation becomes inevitable, the ALEC model bills then provide guidance for federal legislation, or new federal legislation has to draft around the states that adopt the model bill.

So much for Justice Louis Brandeis’ concept of states as laboratories of democracy (New State Ice Co. v. Liebmann, 285 U.S. 262 (1932)), unless that lab belongs to Dr. Frankenstein. ALEC’s mission claims to promote principles of limited government, free markets, and federalism; I will leave you to decide if it’s more about checkbook federalism.

Ticketing Panel, Artist Rights Symposium 11/20/24, Washington DC
L-R: Chris Castle (Artist Rights Institute), Dr. David Lowery (Univ. of Georgia, Terry College of Business), Mala Sharma (Georgia Music Partners), Stephen Parker (National Independent Venue Association), Kevin Erickson (Future of Music Coalition)

Like so many of these bills, ALEC’s Live Event Ticketing Consumer Protection & Reform Act disguises its true objective with a bunch of gaslighting bromides that they evidently believe to be persuasive and then when you’re not looking they slip in the knife. Then when the knife is protruding from your back you discover the true purpose. I think this section of the bill is the true purpose:

This is an odd construct. The model bill starts out by requiring positive behavior of a primary seller (which would be the band on fan club sales or other direct to fan sales). That positive behavior immediately turns to using the ticket purchaser into an enforcer of the values beneficial to the ticket reseller. This is done by forcing a purchaser to be able to resell their ticket without regard to any restrictions placed on reselling by the artist. 

And you know that’s the intention because the section also requires there to be no maximum or minimum price. While the model bill doesn’t require any particular restriction on the platforms, it has enough in it that it can look like a consumer protection bill, but what it is really doing and apparently was designed to accomplish is eliminate an artist’s a ability to set prices.

ALEC is serious about violations of the act, including civil penalties. Their model ticketing legislation can be enforced by both the Federal Trade Commission and state attorneys general. Penalties can include fines of up to $15,000 per day of violation and $1,000 per event ticket advertised or sold. One problem with the model bill is that it appropriates jurisdiction already available to federal agencies like the FTC which is already failing to enforce the existing BOTS Act and other property theft laws.

The main targets seem to be Stubhub’s competitors like “Primary Ticket Merchants,” These are the original sellers of event tickets, such as event organizers or venues. “Secondary Ticket Merchants” may also be prosecuted as well as individuals.

We continue to study the proposed model legislation, but I tend to agree with Stephen Parker (NIVA) and Kevin Erickson (Future of Music) on my Artist Rights Institute panel in DC yesterday. The better model bill may be their bill passed in Maryland, recently signed into law by Maryland governor Wes More.

Key differences between Maryland and the ALEC bill I could spot:

  • Scope of Penalties: The Maryland bill specifies fines for speculative ticket sales, while the ALEC bill includes broader penalties for various violations.
  • Refund Policies: The Maryland bill explicitly requires refunds for counterfeit tickets, canceled events, or mismatched tickets, whereas the ALEC bill focuses more on transparency and restrictive practices.
  • Study on Resale Impact: The Maryland bill includes a provision for studying the impact of resale price caps, which is not present in the ALEC bill.

    It appears that the Live Event Ticketing Consumer Protection & Reform Act will be introduced at the ALEC meeting on December 5, 2024. This is where ALEC members, including state legislators and private sector representatives, will discuss and vote on the model policy. 

    Watch this space.